
The TML Talk | August 15th, 2025
Ross
Ross is a co-founder of TraderLion and Deepvue. He was mentored by William O’Neil, and co-authored The Model Book of Greatest Stock Market Winners at WON + Co.
August 16, 2025
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Key Takeaways from this week’s TML Talk with Ross & Nick
1. The First Pullback to the 50-Day
When a leading stock pulls back to its 50-day moving average for the first time after a major run, Ross uses an intraday entry method:
- Switch to 3-minute charts to time the entry
- Wait for a U-turn pattern off the 50-day
- Use the intraday low as your stop
- Keep stops tight to allow multiple attempts
This approach is essentially “day trading your way into a position trade” — using short-term precision to establish a longer-term position.
2. Wait for the Close
One of the most impactful improvements both Nick & Ross made was learning to wait until late in the day before making sell decisions if you can:
- Try to avoid selling in the first hour
- Watch if buyers step up in the final hour
- Exception: Honor your stops if they’re hit
- Never move original stops lower to “wait for the close”
Nick emphasized: “Any time I sell in the first hour, it’s almost always the wrong decision.”
3. Moving Average Framework
Both Nick & Ross use a two-tier moving average system, though the specific averages differ:
Shorter-term MA (10-week/21-day)
- Indicates momentum when price rides above it
- Break below signals momentum loss
- Use for managing newer positions
Longer-term MA (30-week/50-day)
- Major support level
- Break below means position is broken
- Give big winners room to pull back to this level
4. Focus on Leaders, Not Laggards
A critical mistake traders make is avoiding leaders because they “look extended” while focusing on laggards with “more upside potential.”
The numbers tell the story: Over 10 years, NVIDIA is up 45,000% while “catch-up candidate” MU up only 300%.
- Leaders trade smoother with less volatility
- Institutions prefer liquid leaders
- Leaders surprise to the upside
- Better to “cheat into a leader than get perfect entry in a laggard”
5. Using Weekly Lows
Nick’s approach for sneaking into positions uses weekly lows as pivot points:
- Buy when price bounces off the weekly low
- Use that weekly low as your stop
- If next week doesn’t undercut it, you have confirmation
- Works best when aligned with key moving averages
The key insight: Once a stock starts trending, it rarely undercuts the prior week’s low. This provides a way to keep risk tight.
6. Price Tightness + Low Volume
Ross uses RMV (Relative Measured Volatility) to identify these setups, marking charts with X’s when volatility contracts into the 0-5 range.
7. Stop Management Rules
- Never move original stops lower
- Better to get stopped 2-3 times and re-enter
- Use the two-close rule for moving averages
- Exception: Dramatic breaks require immediate action
Key Takeaways
- Wait for the close before selling (except at original stops)
- Focus on leaders even if extended
- Use weekly/daily lows with MAs for entries
- Watch for price tightening + low volume
- Never move original stops lower
- Keep focus list to 5-7 names maximum




